Honor our veterans Nov 14, 2009
As American Vietnam veteran and POW Pete Peterson said when he went to Vietnam as the U.S. ambassador, We cannot change the past. What we can change is the future. (Melrose Free Press, MA)
South Africa: Civil Society to Lose Major Supporter [interview] Nov 14, 2009
It spends some 400 million dollars annually in seven countries: South Africa, Vietnam, Ireland, Northern Ireland, the U.S., Bermuda and Australia. LaMarche was in South Africa, where TAP is the largest funder of human rights work, to deliver the keynote address at the Annual Inyathelo Philanthropy Awards ceremony recently. (allAfrica.com)
Obama: Afghanistan Troop Decision Soon Nov 14, 2009
Today, those VietNam war dead lie in quiet graves, while Bank of America and Intel build factories and offices in Ho Chi Minh City and our Presidents and politicians do photo ops under the watchful gaze of a portrait of Uncle Ho ... "Intel is the first major foreign investor in high technology in Vietnam. The country's Ministry of Investment and Planning has given Intel an investment license to build a $300 million assembly and test facility to produce chips and computer parts. When completed,... (CBS News -- World)
Another View: Vietnam, Afghanistan and learning from history Nov 14, 2009
Among the "required reading" for the Obama team, it has been reported, is my book, "Lessons in Disaster," which examines how one of the architects of the Vietnam War, McGeorge Bundy, came to renounce America's entanglement in that tragic conflict and struggled to draw insight from it "to help us do better in the world ahead.". As Obama weighs the risks of escalating the U.S. commitment in Afghanistan, what can a new commander in chief learn from the disaster of Vietnam ... The Vietnamese... (Hanford Sentinal, CA)
Colonel's Corner Nov 14, 2009
"I served in the 82nd Airborne Division from 1942 to 1945... When I came back to the States we got married and I went to work for a car dealer... We eventually bought the dealership. Two of our sons served in Vietnam... What happened at Fort Hood isn't a 'tragedy' it's a travesty... It should never have happened... The people who knew about this guy Hasan and did nothing to stop him ought to be fired. All of 'em.". "In 1950, I was six weeks out of boot camp when I landed with the 1st Marine... (Fox News)
The Weight of War Is Showing on Obama Nov 13, 2009
otherwise you'll be one of those who still lives within the day of The Bay of Pigs and Vietnam. good grief. (CBS News)
Sri Lanka's top general resigns amid speculation Nov 13, 2009
Nov. 12: Rachel Maddow is joined by Gordon Goldstein, whose book "Lessons in Disaster: McGeorge Bundy and the Path to war in Vietnam," is likely to be influencing President Obama's decision making process on an Afghan war strategy. Interactive: Forgotten conflicts. (MSNBC -- International)
Pacifying Afghanistan: a dangerous dream Nov 13, 2009
Americans turned against the war in Vietnam as the years wore on ... The precedent is there: Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia. (Christian Science Monitor)
Myanmar up close Nov 13, 2009
Asia Times Online :: Southeast Asia news and business from Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam ... The Association of Southeast Asian Nations, or ASEAN, includes Brunei, Myanmar, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. (Asia Times Online)
Veterans Day Observances Around The Region Nov 12, 2009
Services start at 8:15 a.m. at the General John Patterson Memorial on East and Allen streets; 8:30 a.m. at the Spanish American War Memorial at Willow Brook Park, 635 S. Main St.; 8:45 a.m. at the Vietnam Memorial at Willow Brook Park; 9:15 a.m. at the Sherrod E. Skinner Memorial on Corbin Avenue and Lincoln Street; 9:45 a.m. at the Israel Putnam Stone Memorial at Walnut Hill Park, 184 West Main St.. Events also will take place at 10 a.m. at the World War I Monument at Walnut Hill Park, 184 W.... (FOX61, CT)
Rohrersville man describes life as Vietnam POW Nov 12, 2009
ROHRERSVILLE On Friday, Oct. 13, 1967, navigator James Warner and his pilot took to the air on a bombing raid over North Vietnam. Warner, 68, said their objective was to destroy a Soviet-made cannon that the North Vietnamese Army was using to shell villages south of the demilitarized zone ... Warner said the North Vietnamese interrogators didnt seem interested in him at first and concentrated on the pilot. (The Herald-Mail Online)
Lexington remembers military here and abroad Nov 12, 2009
8 million Number of Vietnam-era veterans in 2008 ... 50,000 Number of living veterans in 2008 who served during the Vietnam era and both Gulf War eras. (Lexington Minuteman, MA)
The White House and HISTORY(TM) Together Honor Veterans as Part of 'Take a Veteran to School Day' on Veterans Day Nov 12, 2009
The six veterans include: LCDR Michael Conrad "Connie" Agresti (Gulf War), SGT Renaee J. Allen (Gulf War), COL Dennis M. Duggan (Korea / Vietnam), SFC Henry Kwiatkowski (WWII / Korea), CPT Koby J. Langley (Kosovo / Operation Iraqi Freedom) and SFC Joe Sharpe (Bosnia / Iraq / Afghanistan) ... COL Dennis M. Duggan (Korea / Vietnam) ... Prior to joining the Maryland Commitment to Veterans, Duggan, a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY, had served a 25-year Army Infantry... (Yahoo! Wire -- Entertainment News)
Vietnam’s lesson for Afghanistan Nov 12, 2009
Vietnam s lesson for Afghanistan - The Boston Globe ... Vietnam s lesson for Afghanistan ... AN ALL TOO familiar image is haunting the debate about Afghanistan: The Vietnam War. (Boston Globe)
The Folly Of A `Drone War' Nov 12, 2009
Rather, it only increases their sense of unity, as in London during the Blitz under Winston Churchill, in Germany under Adolf Hitler, Imperial Japan under Emperor Hirohito, North Korea under Kim Il Sung, North Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh, and of course (though we never put ourselves in such company, being the exceptions to all history), the United States after 9/11 under George W. Bush ... In the Vietnam War, the glories of the electronic battlefield were limned as an antidote to brute and... (CBS News)
Kwesi Pratt should be the last person to ... Nov 11, 2009
We should also not forget the fact that the Americans at the time of the Vietnam war possessed the most sophisticated weapons ever to be developed in the history of warfare in its armoury, she could not defeat the Viet Congs. Advice to Kwesi Pratt: Kwesi should be circumspect in his public utterance for he alone is not the repository of knowledge and intelligence. (Ghana Web, Ghana)
Reps. Owens And Cao: Profiles In Perfidy Nov 11, 2009
The other is the disastrous incrementalism applied in Vietnam. 11/10/2009 07:36 PM ET. (Investors Business Daily)
Writing through the rubble Nov 10, 2009
Vietnam and beyond At the moment, Obama and his fellow Washington power players are reportedly immersed in the in an attempt to use history as a divining rod for discovering a path forward in Afghanistan ... Obama would do well to ignore their revisionist reading list for a simple reason: Bluntly put, the U.S.-funded French military effort to defeat Vietnamese nationalism in the early 1950s failed dismally; then, a U.S.-funded effort to set up and arm a viable government in South Vietnam failed... (Salon)
Cao Casts Lone GOP Vote for Health Care Nov 10, 2009
So on Saturday, Cao, the first Vietnamese American elected to Congress, surprised Democrats and Republicans by becoming the ... But he added: "I have to live with myself, and I always reflect on the phrase of the New Testament, 'How does it profit a man's life to gain the world but to lose his soul?' '' Cao, who at age 8 fled Vietnam after the fall of Saigon, first came to Louisiana as a Jesuit seminarian. He eventually left the priesthood and became a lawyer. His political activity increased... (CBS News -- US)
Steve Kroft Wins Paul White Award Nov 10, 2009
He served with the United States Army in Vietnam as a correspondent and photographer for Pacific Stars and Stripes. Kroft is married to journalist Jennet Conant. (CBS News -- 60 minutes)
Read the 'News Watch' transcript Nov 10, 2009
I mean, I hate to get those Vietnam analogies, but I mean, there's some little hints that are popping up ... SCOTT: He used the Vietnam word again ... It is sort of like Vietnam, and the intelligence, you know, it doesn't think that the Johnson administration or the Nixon administration back then is handling it now, and they don't think Obama's handling it very well right now. (Fox News)
Tortured justice Nov 10, 2009
As he said in an interview, "In my own caucus, people say, 'We can't oppose this, look what happened to Max Cleland.'" (A Vietnam veteran confined to a wheelchair because of war wounds, Cleland, a Georgia senator, was defeated by GOP attacks ads in 2002 because he had supported a Democratic filibuster delaying the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security) ... He is an ex-Marine who not only fought in Vietnam but has a son who served in Iraq ... The outing Web site exposed the secret... (Salon)
Article lacked evidence of ambivalence Nov 9, 2009
Vietnam, '68-'69Lodi ... election year wrote on Nov 8, 2009 1:21 PM:" danielh: I believe the writer was referring to the SON of General George Patton of WWII fame. General Patton's son was a commander in Vietnam. Also, General Patton (the father) was a war hawk and was eventually relieved of his command for his increasingly erratic behavior and for making outrageous statements, one "alledgedly" comparing Nazis to the American Democratic party.I don't disagree that the US "mission" in Iraq was... (Lodi News Sentinel, CA)
CCSU Veterans History Project Connects Generations Nov 9, 2009
CCSU in New Britain is one of many archive partners nationwide in the Veterans History Project, created by the U.S. Library of Congress in 2000 to seek out veterans who participated in conflicts including World War II, Vietnam, Korea, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq and preserve their oral histories, photographs and documents. The project also interviews civilians who supported war efforts. (FOX61, CT)
LETTER: Obama aggressive in dealing with dissenters Nov 9, 2009
The Question wrote on Nov 8, 2009 9:17 AM:" I agree with Stanley Karnow, author of the seminal 1983 book, Vietnam: A History," who said this: What did we learn from Vietnam ... thought in Vietnam in 1967. (Mattoon Journal-Gazette, IL)
Historic vote looms on Capitol Hill today Nov 8, 2009
And for all of you Yankee haters (and lovers), here s a reason to dig Johnny Damon, the son of a Vietnam vet, for his work with that same organization. . (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Opinion)
* US foreign policy is straight out of the mafia: Noam Chomsky Nov 8, 2009
Chomsky is the US most prominent critic of the US imperial role in the world, which he has used his erudition and standing to expose and excoriate since Vietnam ... He is certainly his own man, holds some idiosyncratic views (I was startled, for instance, to hear him say that Vietnam was a strategic victory for the US in Southeast Asia, despite its humiliating 1975 withdrawal) and has drawn flak for defending freedom of speech for Holocaust deniers. (Taipei Times, Taiwan -- Sports)
Elder Law: It's hard to tell when inflation will make appearance Nov 8, 2009
Seeds of inflation had been planted about 10-years before in the form of the Vietnam war and "Great Society" spending programs. While few thought inflation was serious for most of the decade, it all changed in one cold November in the late 1960s when the CPI hit 1 percent per month. (The News-Press -- Business)
Mythologies about Afghanistan Nov 8, 2009
Is Afghanistan the new Vietnam ... In the three bloodiest years, 2007 through 2009 so far, the United States has suffered a total of 553 fatalities -- tragic, but less than 1% of the 58,159 Americans killed in Vietnam. (Fresno Bee -- Opinion)
Keeping Afghanistan safe from democracy Nov 8, 2009
It is no different from our having extolled those garbage elections that occurred with great regularity in Vietnam during the war there, a point made to great effect by Hoh. Our support for this kind of government, coupled with a misunderstanding of the insurgency s true nature, reminds me horribly of our involvement with South Vietnam; an unpopular and corrupt government we backed at the expense of our nation s own internal peace, against an insurgency whose nationalism we arrogantly and... (Paragould Daily Press, AR)
Reagan's Peace Through Strength with Constancy of Purpose Nov 7, 2009
Our Vietnam veterans know how frustrating it was to watch politicians put soldiers on hold; tying their hands in Vietnam was a recipe for defeat. Our soldiers today deserve a President who understands what bold action can mean to soldiers in the field. (Townhall.com)
Campion honors distinguished vets Nov 7, 2009
He served on active duty in the U.S. Navy, from February 1966 to November 1969, and was awarded the Vietnam Service Medal, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal and the National Defense Service Medal ... A lifelong Greene County resident who lives in Cairo, Van Loan served in the U.S. Army and was deployed to Vietnam as a rifle platoon leader assigned to the 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry ... He is also the veterans representative on the Greene County Department for the Aging Advisory Council and is a... (Hudson Register Star, NY)
Written out of the story Nov 7, 2009
He is an ex-Marine who not only fought in Vietnam but has a son who served in Iraq ... The outing Web site exposed the secret homosexual life of the 63-year-old retired career Navy officer, Vietnam veteran and member of the House Armed Services Committee. (Salon)
Facebook people power Nov 7, 2009
Asia Times Online :: Southeast Asia news and business from Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam. Southeast Asia. (Asia Times Online)
UK BROWN: RISK OF FAILURE IN AFGHANISTAN IS REAL... Nov 6, 2009
Families of servicemen killed in Afghanistan called for troops to be withdrawn, warning that the conflict was turning into our Vietnam. The Daily Telegraph has learnt that there is growing frustration in Whitehall at Barack Obama s deliberations over sending another 40,000 soldiers to Afghanistan. (The Drudge Report)
United States Claims #1 Spot For First Time as World's Top Country Brand Nov 6, 2009
- Canada Holds on to Second Spot and Australia Slips to Number Three - - Global Study Expanded to Cover Regional Rankings Including Asia Pacific, Sub-Sahara Africa and the Americas. This category remains one with tremendous potential not only for tourism but investment, trade and policy. (Canada Newswire)
Fall Of The Wall? U.S. Sends Regrets Nov 6, 2009
If you lived through the Vietnam war, the building of the Wall - you would have a better respect for the efforts (even if overdone) taken to make this world a better place. The current administration seems to think America is something to be ashamed of -- not me. (Investors Business Daily)
Government puts seniors at risk with flu policy Nov 6, 2009
Another reason wrote on Nov 5, 2009 1:46 PM:" When the institutional memory of a nation is gone (not books, but the actual people who lived through an event) it is very easy to "re-organize" the country.If everyone over 65 were to cease existing today, we would have no institutional memory of WWII, the Korea War, much of the Vietnam War; and the Cold War with the USSR.The present administration would really like for this nation and its young people to have no first hand (through older parents,... (Klamath Falls Herald & News, OR)
King successor Sen. Thrasher sworn into office Nov 6, 2009
During brief commentsWednesday, Senate President Jeff Atwater, R-North Palm Beach, pointed to Thrasher's political accomplishments and his background as a Vietnam veteran. Atwater described Thrasher as someone who will "stand tall and fight for what you believe in.". (Daytona Beach News Journal -- Florida)
Freedom fighter Nov 6, 2009
" Dexter Clark added that secessionists should "infiltrate" the two major parties when they could advance their cause this way. But Lynette Clark makes it clear that she does not believe in working within the American political system. Clark, who served in the Air Force during the Vietnam War, says she once believed in America. But no longer. "My God, our country's been completely whored out to the highest bidders. " We no longer live in a democracy, she says. "We have a partnership between a... (Salon)
Editorial Roundup Nov 5, 2009
Mr. Kerry also has emerged as an influential and articulate critic of a war where the parallels to the one he first fought in and then fought against in Vietnam some four decades ago are eerily similar. The Daily Telegraph, London, on the prospect of Tony Blair becoming European Council president. (Hanford Sentinal, CA)
LETTER: 'Bite the bullet or die from the wounds' Nov 5, 2009
a vietnam vet and proud of it ... " The poverty pimps have tokeep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.I'm real tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives andactions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination,or big-whatever for their problems.Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I'm notgoing to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just sorry formy granddaughter.Robert A. Hall is a Marine... (Mattoon Journal-Gazette, IL)
Vietnam Tropical Storm Death Toll Up To 91 Nov 5, 2009
HANOI, Vietnam, Nov. 4, 2009 ... Broken houses are seen after the storm in Phu Yen Province, a province in south central coast, in Vietnam, Nov. 4, 2009 ... (AP Photo/Vietnam News Agency). (CBS News -- World)
Blasting Back in Time to 1983 Nov 5, 2009
CBS News former anchor Dan Rather reported the bombing had the heaviest U.S. casualties since Vietnam. Price said, "How could anyone have gotten to the point where they could cause such damage on our own military?". (CBS News)
Newsweek: If economy is stagnant, why are stocks up? Nov 4, 2009
Brazil, China, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam did not suffer an economic recession. We are the only country, together with Europe, that adopted deregulated the financial market. (MSNBC -- Business)
Obama issues a blunt warning to Afghan leader Nov 4, 2009
Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, is acutely aware that trying to fight for a government that lacks the respect of the population is futile. Kerry had spent a couple of extra days in Kabul last month winning Karzai round to the idea of a run-off vote. (Sydney Morning Herald -- Opinion)
Fighting the 'good' war Nov 4, 2009
McChrystal, who appears to be supported by top Pentagon brass, backs COIN, which includes a counter-terrorism aspect as well as "winning the hearts and minds" of the Afghan people, an effort that utterly failed when tried in Vietnam, and will fail in Afghanistan. Vice President Joseph Biden and some other administration advisers back the lower intensity counter-terrorism option without greatly expanding the number of troops or engaging in "nation building". (Asia Times Online)
Q: With all the rain we’ve had recently, why have North Georgia lakes Nottely and Blue Ridge remained so far below normal? Nov 4, 2009
A: Cleland was seriously wounded in April 1968 while serving as an Army captain in Vietnam when he reached for a grenade that he believed had dropped off his gear ... His new memoir is Heart of a Patriot: How I Found the Courage to Survive Vietnam, Walter Reed and Karl Rove. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- World)
REPUBLICAN TAKES VA BY 18%...REPUBLICAN TAKES NJ BY 5%... Nov 4, 2009
Ken Torsland, a Vietnam vet, told CBS 2 HDhe wasvoting Republican across the board, save for a Democrat who is a friend. It's a referendum, he said, on President Obama's administration. (The Drudge Report)
What type of country the U.S. is Nov 4, 2009
He begins by noting that "next fall, the United States' occupation will equal in length the Soviet Union's own physical involvement in Afghanistan," and contends that our unwanted occupation combined with our support for a deeply corrupt government "reminds [him] horribly of our involvement in South Vietnam." He then explains that most of the people we are fighting are not loyal to the Taliban or driven by any other nefarious aim, but instead are driven principally by resistance to the presence... (Salon)
St. Anthony mayoral candidates answer questions Nov 4, 2009
I spent three years in the U.S. Army repairing aircraft, mostly "Huey" helicopters, spending one year in Vietnam and 16 months in Germany. I married Teresa Hall in 1970. (Rexburg Standard Journal, ID)
Hitchens: How the U.N. Ruined Any Chance of a Fair Afghan Election Nov 3, 2009
I have written dozens of times about how none of the so-called parallels with Vietnam are any good (al-Qaida a foreign import to Afghanistan; no Vietcong threat to American cities; you know the rest), but there is one thing that did disfigure South Vietnam and is essential to avoid in any case: the commitment of American forces to a government that contrives to be both enriched and bankrupt at the same time and makes its own people want to spit. First, Silence the Whistle-Blower: The United... (Slate)
Afghanistan: Obama's First Domino Nov 3, 2009
Have you noticed, by the way, that the worse Afghanistan gets, the more the pundits find themselves helplessly into Vietnam ... Even if it's obvious that Vietnam and Afghanistan, as places and historical situations, have little in common, what they do have is Washington ... In Vietnam, this was expressed in the absurd "domino theory": if Vietnam fell, Thailand, Burma, India, and finally California would follow like so many toppling dominos. (CBS News)
U.S. Backs Karzai Win - With Reservations Nov 3, 2009
He will have either the deadly fate of Babrak Karmal, or Hajifullah Amin, or he will live in exile- like Vietnam's last U.S. puppeteers, Diem Van Thieu and Van Cao Ky ... Also, Van Gao Giap, the famous North Vietnamese Defense minister, said after the U.S. defeat in Vietnam: "We knew that we will prevail, even if it took time, because "victory" is was the ultimate goal of the Vietnamese military sciences." And as it happened in France, in Russia, to imperial Japan, and in Vietnam, it will happen... (CBS News)
National/World News Nov 3, 2009
HANOI, Vietnam (AP) - Tropical Storm Mirinae unleashed severe flooding in parts of central Vietnam, killing 11 people, leaving two missing and forcing families onto rooftops, disaster officials said Tuesday. Floods in Phu Yen province killed 10 people after the storm hit, drenching the region with heavy rains Monday, said disaster official Duong Van Huong. (The Palm Beach Post)
Iran has another hero, this one still living, in Mahmoud Vahidnia Nov 3, 2009
And the ChickenConned could care less why he lost his flight status, and whether he fulfilled the requirements of his military service contract during the Vietnam War ... And the ChickenConned could care less why he lost his flight status, and whether he fulfilled the requirements of his military service contract during the Vietnam War. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- Opinion)
Editorial: President must choose carefully Nov 2, 2009
This is no time to blindly up the ante, engaging in the sorts of gradual escalation that prolonged the inconclusive Vietnam War. Nor is it time for a rush to judgment and precipitous action as the Bush administration did with the invasion and occupation of Iraq. (Sacramento Bee -- Opinion)
A Class in Nation-Building 101 Nov 2, 2009
Unless you and others with a pulpit stand up and explain this to the very lazy minded computer gamer generation, the Cheney criminals are going to get away with all of this just like those who led us into the Korean and Vietnam wars for the military industrial complex. by pjk12354 November 2, 2009 12:10 AM EST. (CBS News)
Obama Shouldn't Tell Generals to 'Shut Up and Obey' Orders Nov 2, 2009
Apparently, the president politicized his review team because he smelled disaster and doesn t want to be remembered for Afghanistan the way President Lyndon Johnson is for Vietnam. Obama s war review team is now picking apart McCrystal s proposal trying to create a minimalist strategy that cuts losses and gets us out of Afghanistan before the next presidential election no matter the consequences. (Human Events Online)
If we leave Iraq, do we lose for good? Nov 1, 2009
My first comment on your column was simply, "How could any of these politicians have learned anything from the consequences of the Vietnam War?" Most every one of these political hacks was dodging the draft legally in order to (as it was so delicately phrased) "preserve their political viability.". This was not colossal ineptitude but a deliberate, calculated move to enrich cronies. (Salon)
All together now Nov 1, 2009
" Remember that for all the hoopla over Hillary Clinton's refusal to concede in 2008, in 1980 Teddy Kennedy took his fight with an incumbent president all the way to the convention, despite having half as many delegates. Once Carter limped into the general, he was dispatched by the "Great Communicator," one of the most skilled Republican political figures since Teddy Roosevelt. It was Carter's 1976 victory that was the fluke. A Baptist from Georgia won narrowly in the wake of Watergate and... (Salon)
RUTH M. GADEBUSCH: Re-evaluate on Veterans Day this year Nov 1, 2009
"We don't need another Vietnam.". Another look at U.S.'s two wars. (Fresno Bee -- Opinion)
Cut Deals With Afghan Tribal Chiefs to Dump Taliban Oct 31, 2009
President Barack Obama presumably has studied the history of the Vietnam negotiations. They began shortly after the February 1968 Tet offensive, hailed as a Communist victory by the Western media but reviewed as a defeat in the post-war memoirs of North Vietnamese generals ... Hopefully, Obama has talked with John Negroponte, a Vietnamese-speaking young diplomat who pioneered the secret negotiating track as a Henry Kissinger scout. (Newsmax)
Obama: The Vietnam moment... Oct 31, 2009
FT.com / Comment / Analysis - The Vietnam moment ... Somehow, the compulsions of US politics have brought the candidate who electrified America by promising to pull out of Iraq to a position where many of his most ardent backers fear he may be about to get America into another Vietnam ... Some believe the analogies with Vietnam are overdone: The US lost almost 60,000 lives in south-east Asia against the 797 it has so far lost in Afghanistan. (The Drudge Report)
U.S. Troops to Afghanistan: A Waiting Game Oct 31, 2009
They kept saying we weren't going to do a Vietnam again, but take s look ... Winning the battles and losing the war is what we did in Vietnam. (CBS News)
